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Thread: Max Velocity on S200?

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    What is the maximum velocity that can be had on a 200S? I am going camping and have arranged with the owner of the property to go on a rabbit/guinea fowl hunt. I intend using H&N Baracudas to ensure knockdown efficiency. At my current setting I get 690 fps. To me that is way too slow.I also realise that I will sacrifice shots for more power. Are there any pellets available from the crosman stable that are heavier than 8gr average and who has them?
    I have access to a chrony to tune the rifle.
    Will keep you posted on success or failure


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    You do get a Crosman Premier Heavy at 10.5 grain, but I am not sure on availability

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    Target Specialists has the Premiers, my guns don't like them though.
    You can adjust the speed up, very easy actually.
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    Premier heavies will perform pretty much the same as Barracudas...they weigh 10.5gr as opposed to the Barras 10.6gr.
    You can push the S200 a little more with the heavier pellets up to about 735 fps but your power curve and shot count will suffer.
    Accuracy with both heavy pells is good out of the S200 but I would stick with JSB 8.4 running at an average of 820fps...the S200 is not easy to bring up in power, especially in .177.
    You need a stiffer striker spring...dunno where to get one though...anyone??

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    Guido
    I know that hunting is a sensitive issue with regards to the SPCA/monkey case. will 8.? gr be sufficient to roll a rabbit humanely, taking into account shot placement in the vitals. Guinea fowl I know is critical to go for head/neck shots.

    Tx

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    8gr, 10.5gr - don't matter - still is a very small piece of lead! No matter which one you use ensure that accuracy is at a premium, because that's all you got.

    Distance will have a huge influence on accuracy, "knock down power" sooo are you very confident with your own abilities???

    Both rabbit and guinea fowl can be taken with your setup, but only with good shot placement and no further than 35m.

    I would strongly suggest you up the power to about 800 fps with 8.44 and get used to the change in trajectory before you head out.

    i've seen my shooting buddy took Guinea fowl with his S200 at distances up to 45m.

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    I agree with Ice....bunnies no problem with 8.4gr [or 10.5gr] at 12ft\lbs..the Poms have been doing it for decades out to 40m or so.
    Guinea Fowl I think are quite different...very tough bodies so a head shot is vital. I would limit the hunting to head shots at 40m...quite a challenge to say the least...avoid the temptation of taking body shots since the buggers will not sit still for long...you will just wound them.

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    Yep on the Guinea fowl subject - Have seen guys who couldn't drop them with a .22 rimfire when going for a body shot, headshot is the only option, very challenging indeed.

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    I have an s200s and am able to get it up to 900ft/s maby more but i am using an 7.6grain pellet which is pretty light but even with a heavy 10.6 grain pellet you should still get 750ft/s. you can turn the power up either by using the small screw on the right hand side of the gun just above the trigger but if you take the stock off there is also a screw with a blob of red paint on it this works too.you can also use both if you want but i think that the screw under the stock adjusts the amount of air being realesed which results in fewer shots per fill. the screw on the right hand side of the gun adjusts how much a valve is opened when firing resulting in quickeer release of air.
    <span class='smallblacktext'>[ Edited Sat Mar 05 2005, 08:45AM ]</span>

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    Stoffeltoo & moose, see that you both have cz 200S's.
    do you rate this pcp, i have to choose between cz 200 or bam 50.. any ifo or recomondation will be a great help. my first pcp
    many thanks !ill

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    Yes i think it is a very good gun for the price you pay compared to other more expensive PCP!!

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    for a first PCP go with the S200..
    The BAM needs work and may disappoint you and put you off PCPs for life unless you are prepared to tinker with it.

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    Hi Tiens

    My honest opinion is that the best gun to have is the one you own. I bought my 200S because at the time it was the only gun I could afford. Off the shelf comparison to the BAM is quite big. BAM had no charging adapter, the gunshop owner would get 1, where I received a charging adapter with the 200S. Trigger on the 200S was crisp at factory settings, BAM well what can I say? The BAM has a great stock with a nice comb, rather solid and reminding me of one of the older daystates. The 200S has a seperate forestock as it was primarily designed as a target rifle that was beefed up. I built my own solid stock for the 200S and now I luv my gun! The plastic bits & pieces on the 200S were functional but does not belong on a 200S, so I made a brass bolt, brass pellet guide block, brass trigger blade and polished the trigger sears with 1200 emery grit. As smooth as a babies bum with a crisp release. Cannot get it better. Next gun on my menu to own is Steyr.

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    Hey stoffeltoo could you get a picture of your gun on the site. I also have a s200s and would like to see all your customizations! Have you tried the multi shot adaption yet and what do you think of it. I've got one and it works very well even though it is so expensive-R900

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    hey stoffeltoo, if i were you, i would stick with an air arms pellet at 8.4 grains.... ive shot a couple of rabbits and 12ft/lbs is more then enough to go throu his head... make sure its a head shot thou... and no further then 30 yards to be safe.... make sure you know what your gun does, practice shooting at 10 yards, 20yards and 30 yards, you never know, the rabbit may pop out 8 yards from you and then you dont know where to aim... anyhow, guinee you gonna have to spine him i guess, go have a look at the thread in hunting tips about birds, couple of tips there.....
    ive played with a couple od CZ before regarding power, me and moose jacked his up big time.... but wouldnt go over 850fps with say a 8.4 grain pellet. if you know the trajectory of the barracudas wel enough that also lakker, they have very good penetration.... i went for my dassies with them on 12ft/lbs and they did a good jod. Koos Barnard did a test on a whole buch of pellets and found the baracudas to have the best penetration (by far)....
    if for some reason you cant come right, come visit our range and we can help you jack the power up if you want, we also sell Crosman premiers 10.5....
    <span class='smallblacktext'>[ Edited Mon Mar 07 2005, 09:11PM ]</span>

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