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    The Gamo Hunter 1250 is moertoe. The barrel bent when after cocking it came back on its own. No serious injuries, but it points upwards like a honeymoon ?c$&k?.

    I spoke to a gunsmith/seller in Newcastle today and he recommends a CZ 200 as a kick off in PCP?s. Then I spoke to Geoffrey( My online seller) from: http://bulldog.co.za/catalog/conditions.php

    He offered me his opinion that the CZ 200, are to small for us. My son and I are both big boys. I?m over 6 ft and he is soon to be. He suggested a Bam 51 @ less than R3000.

    Now I want to know what your thoughts are. If you take in consideration that they might change the Gamo 1250 for a new one, I can sell it as an almost new one, makes no real difference, say I?ve got R2000 and are prepared to spend another R2000, what is the best PCP, I can buy? Remember I will still need gadgets, fittings etc.

    I?m thinking of starting an air rifle club here in Volksrust. I will need lots of inputs from you people. I?ve spoken to The Quartermaster?s owner, the shop is only open on Saturdays, to let us open it everyday and I'll run the shop. The point is if I have a decent rifle to start with and the people around catches on, we can have a great thing going, this side of ?Where the sun comes up?

    Please help me out.

    PS. Will need lots of assistance when we get to FT, but there is always a nice B&B going on here(Braai and Brandewyn)

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    Swannie , My 5 cents worth , I have an Air Arms S 400 Classic , magic weapon best in the west for me .
    I have a CZ 200 too , which lives behind the bakkie seat for stupid indian mynas . Both are good guns , I'm 6 foot , & yes , the CZ is compact , I dont see it as a handicap .
    Remember , the setting up with PCP is costly , there is the rifle , then a scope , then you need to get air into it . I use a pump , that was best part of R2000 , a Night eater scope , plus minus R 1500 , then the rifle cost . The Air Arms are the Rolls Royce , but there is nothing wrong with CZ . Its accuracy is right up there with the best of them , provided you use a good pellet . For me , that is the AA field diabolo , but it still groups well with a few of the cheapies .
    The CZ cylinder is not as big as AA , so you need to fill it more often for the same amount of shooting . You also have to take it off to fill , a bit of a shlep .

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    Thinking some more about it , its your choice , the CZ would not be a bad buy . Here in SA it seems a perfect little gun , although some US web sites say it has no second hand value .
    Just remember , dont make the mistake most of us do , that is buy , then buy again , then eventually discover what you should have bought the first time around . That is when the cost is much greater , than if you'd bit the bullet & bought the best in the first place .
    My perception of the Bam ( I'll no doubt be put in my place ) is they are a bit rough & ready . Otherwise they seem to work ok if you dont fiddle too much with them . I think Warrick is the Bam fundi .

    Your choice at the end of the day . There are some very good guys on this site who will advise you . Go with their advice .

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    Hi Swannie, if you are after the same power as your gamo then the BAM is a good bet, as Gerry says some are a bit rough but I think all rifles have "Friday" guns and some at a higher price (as Gerrie R8000 for an HW100 that he probably wouldn't cook his famouse borries on!!). With BAMs it pays to get one that has been checked by someone who knows how they tic, remember they are after all "Daystate's". A BAM with NS night eater, dive tank and adapter will set you back +-R5500, if you want it tuned for FT at +- 790fps and then quick change to +-950fps for hunting then add R330, rifle comes with a one year warranty on factory faults and a further year free repair (my cover excluding deliver/ collection) for factory faults or free overhaul service at 18months
    If you have the bucks then you cann't go wrong with the Air Arms stuff and it has good local back up, but expect to pay out R9000+ on full kit.
    PCP will give you power if you want without the rifle shaking its self to pieces in the process.
    Cheers and good shooting.
    <span class='smallblacktext'>[ Edited Sat Feb 18 2006, 07:56PM ]</span>

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    Thanks Gerry, Warrick fot your inputs.
    Ok so I have the Hawk 4-12X44 Airmax that comes of the Hunter. Appart from a set of mounts, it will just have to do, till I can get something beter. Where does that leave me for a working package. BAM 51, dive tank and adapter.Ja, Ok and the tunning?

    Cheers

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    Swannie, i started out with on of Warricks BAM's it was a realy good and accurate rifle for the price. Warricks after sales service and advice is also very good.

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    Errol,
    At the end of the day, how did the EV change your FT scores?

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    it comes down to the old saying you get what you pay for, R1?????? thousand for a gun that shoots the ball hairs off a fly at 50m is what you pay for, since hennie put his mods to it the gun will shoot the hair off the hair on the flies balls.

    you cant compare the bam to the ev (toyota vs ferrari)

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    Errol, now go buy a proper FT tool. Steyr LG110. :thumbsup

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    You can't go wrong with upgrading to a bigger scope at your earliest opportunity. Take my word that more accurate range finding will improve your score even more.

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    And to throw a spanner into the works I have been using this outfit for FT over the last couple of weeks:

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    It is a Daystate Huntsman Mk1 FTR, fitted with a regulator. The scope is a 24x44 Nikko Stirling Target Master (same as the old Tasco TS's). To my amazement I am shooting better scores with this than with some of the more specialised outfits (including Steyr LG100's and 'briefly' an EV2) that have passed through my hands - two 37's out of 40 over the weekend on my home club course - which is a difficult course.

    Now why should this be when the more expensive and specialist outfits have not performed so well for me?

    Well, it is possible that because this outfit is a little cruder I am concentrating more with it. I am coming to think that with the multi adjustable rifles we are perhaps getting complacent in the face of technology, thinking that it will do the work for us.

    Dale


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    Dale: 37 out of 40 with the bam just imagine if you concentrate with the ev????
    Gerrief: i would love a bigger scope, just waiting for some spon..... cash it very tight after the ev set back. upgraded the wheel to a bigger one at the moment

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    Unfortunately the EV2 was not mine, it was just passing through my hands on its way to its new owner. Think I will persevere with this outfit for a while and see what it is capable of.

    BTW - while it more resembles the BAM than the EV it is definitely a better rifle than its Chinese " cloned offspring"!
    :twak


    <span class='smallblacktext'>[ Edited Tue Feb 21 2006, 09:39AM ]</span>

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    Thank you all for your wonderfull response. At the end I went the rough and tough way by getting a BAM51. Well lets refraise: Getting my son a BAM51. Sh!t, he just have to have something for his 16th bithday on Thursday the 23 Feb. Lets give a hearty Hip Hip Hoera.

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    nice one Swannie

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