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    I was wondering if there is any proffesional tuners for twang-guns in SA like Paul Watts and Jim Maccari from the USA? I phoned a couple of gunshops/gunsmiths and they didnt have the faintest idea of what I am talking about. Have anyone had their springer tuned? Results?

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    Hi Airking,

    My guess would be speak to Hennie at Target Specialists, as Herman is extremely good.

    Tuning a rifle can be very beneficial as it aids smothness and consistency and if done properly reduces recoil while maintaining a sensible power output. All in all making it a much pleasanter rifle to use.

    What rifle are you thinking of working on?

    Dale


    <span class='smallblacktext'>[ Edited Thu Mar 09 2006, 09:55AM ]</span>

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    I'll second you on that Dale, Herman did an excellent job on my ancient BSF underlever. So much so that I have difficulty in prying it from my father in law's hands when they visit us! (He's a hunter from the old school, prefer to shoot open sights)

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    I read really nice posts on the internet about all different tunes being done, I have a Diana mod 54 AirKing (hence the name), this gun is already recoilles. I would like to get some work done on the trigger( it now breaks at about a pound) to lighten it and to smooth the whole thing, I want to order a Monolith or GSI spring kit from Maccari in the US.

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    Mkonto Manufacturing, manufactures of the IMPI and INDUNA South Africa's most accurate springers, are licenced manufactures and gunsmiths. They have a fully equipped works and will be able to meet all your needs.

    Give Mkonto Maufacturing a call on 011-6181908 for all your gunmaking needs


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    Anyone doing it in Cape Town?

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    Airking,
    Order a kit from Jim, you won't be sorry and even at the current exchg rate it'll probably work you out cheaper still.
    Then a DIY installation on a Diana is easy. Did mine myself.

    You know what cheesed me off? When I took the Diana 300R apart there was absolutely ZERO lube anywhere on the rear spring guide, the "washer" was a flimsy metal thingie, the spring had no tar on it, there was no front spring guide. Maccari's spring is great, you can just feeeel it, he included a front spring guide, the amount of play between spring and guides is nil and the "washer" is a bulky solid thick brass piece. Oh, he also included tar for the spring. So, get yourself a kit from Jim, he's the best and you won't be sorry.

    Oh, yes, instead of a twaaaang, there's now a solid thwackkk, I can feel less vibration and the rifle now luvs H&N Baracuda Extra Heavies. My best group of 5 shots at 30yards is 7mm c-t-c, which is probaly not great in some eyes, but then I'm not a good shot.

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    Spear,
    The idea of this forum is to be informative and helpfull, not cheap advertising. Get to know the sport and real needs of the partisipants.
    I will bring you a couple of airrifles done with Macari kits and also by some other people in the know that will challenge your advertised product any day.
    Why don't you send fucius one to test and let him report back to the forum.
    So far you got a vote of no confidence in your moderator, let's see what your rifle stands up to.

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    There are no "profesional" air rifle tuners in SA as there is no formal training available. There are how ever some experienced airsmiths. Airsmithing knowlage is build up slowly from experience. I have stuck to PCP (air and Co2). Spring piston rifle tuning has been elivated to a artform by some UK smiths and with springers there is a lot more "black magic" to the tuning. Most of the springers available in SA have substandard springs (except for the more expencive brands, which souldn't require tuning anyway). I do not know of a spring rifle tuner (although I would like to find some one as I personally don't like working on springers and only do my own), I would say your best bet would be to import a known product with instructions and DIY. Just make sure you have a diagram of your rifle as well as dismantling proceedure as well as a spring compressor.

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    BIG differance between a gunsmith and an "AIRSMITH".

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    Warrick and Lewis are correct.
    DIY is best to "learn" your rifle and chambersgunmakers have diagrams of most popular brands/models.
    Read-a-lot, Google-a-lot and go about it carefully & precisely.
    I built a spring-compress bench one Saturday and did the tune-kit installation the next day and now I'm as happy as a pig in sh.. for doing it myself with such great results.

    Go on, live a little. Don't be too scared of ruining your precious Diana 54. It is more robust than you think and a proper installation is fairly easy once you've gathered some info on the net.
    Mine was my first and only tune installation so far. If it was that easy for me, then you can only imagine...

    Actually, a lot of the advise I followed was from some articles contained in those "Addictive Airgun E-zine" pdf's I downloaded from a posted link here not too long ago. Info helps and careful planning delivers.

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    I would suggest that you take detailed photos of every thing as you begin your strip down .

    Even the diagrams wont help if you cant remember if the bracket or screw was in this or that position .

    OK , I am a senior citizen suffering with poor eyesight & perforated memory , but photos have helped me in the past . Oh yes , use a pencil as a pointer to the object you are focussing on , it also helps !

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    To really gain experience buy one of the R150 "roadside guns" and try to make it shoot like a R4000 AirRifle.
    I learned a lot from "tuning" these rifles, and if you fail, you have more spares for the next try.
    Tip- be carefull when making the transfer port bigger.

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    Dear All,

    Why dont you give James Owen a call, he has probably beaten the pants off many of you, or can easily do so. He has used our LOCALY made springer for some time now ( over 12 000 shots fired, no failures ! ).

    Casper, we are talking about our STANDARD air rifle not a modified production rifle. Nor are we wanting cheap advertising either, we have been asking what you and your fellow shottists require and making you aware of what we currently offer.

    We would however like to expand our range of products to offer people a chance to buy localy made quality products. Or are you like Warrick that only appears to support forigners ?

    We have also practiced "black magic" for more than 26 years and we also manufacture our own air rifles. Can any of you ?

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    Thanks for all the advice, I did strip the gun without a spring compressor (my dad was the compressor!!) and saw the back metal guide is not a close fit as i would have liked,I want to get a tighter fitting one and the spring has seen some action so it is not 100% straight anymore. I lubed her and the spring up and assembled without any hassles, very easy and robust system. I have contacted macari several times to answer some questions I had regarding his different kits but the answers have been unsatisfactory so I still am not sure which kit to get. most of the tuning I can do myself but stuff like putting delrin guides on the piston and tuning the trigger is beyond my mere mortal knowledge. i am still amazed how good this gun is...I wish there were more people that had one so we can open a Proud Diana Owners Club.
    Spear can you do the delrin guide thing?

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