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    Hi all.


    I am very interested to find out a bit more about FT, and have been reading up on the local sites as well as a few international ones.

    The thing of particular interest to me in the optics involved.

    I have seen that most of the guys seem to use scopes with a magnification between 8X - 50X.

    Why is there a need for such a large amount of magnification, besides for ranging and the ability to have the target fill ones field of view?


    I am currently using an AGS 4-16X 56mm Scope (beautiful scope) would this be sufficient for FT?

    If not, what is the ideal and minimul sort of magnification for FT?

    Also what are some of the better brand scope manufacturers in the larger magnification arena. I would be looking for quality optics, but also not looking to break the bank. Say, no more than R6000 as a maximum I would be willing to spend.

    Any advise and comments would be appreciated.

    Thanks.
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    The primary reason for the high mag is for range finding, as you already note. The higher the mag the less depth of field and the more accurate the range finding is.

    Range finding is quite possible with mags of 20x - 24x, however it requires more practice. Generally 32x is considered a reasonable minimum with mags of 40x to 50x being used.

    Your 4-16 would be ok for FT, but if you wanted to get seriously competitive you would find it lacking for range finding.

    The Lynx 10-50x60 (or its Nikko Stirling counterpart) are about the best lower price scopes, the Lynx having the benefit of local back up.

    Other options would be the likes of the Bushnell Elite 4200 8-32x40 if direct imported from the US.

    I would say with scopes buy the best you can afford, reaslistically for FT there is more benefit from the scope than from a full race gun.
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    There is no reason why you can't use a 4-16x56 of FT. The high magnification scopes we use, is used primeraly for range finding. Accurate range finding is a lot more difficult with a 16 or even 34 power scope than a 50x.
    The higher the magnification the shallower the depth of focus becomes i.e. at 50x it is a lot easier to range find.
    The problem is that the depth of focus increases with distance and even on 50x the depth of focus increase over 40 meters. The problem is compounded in that range finding becomes increasingly important as the distance increases.
    For R 6000 won't have a problem finding a good FT scope. As far as I know the big 10-50x60 Nikko/Lynx sells for less.
    Just about everybody uses the Nikko/Lynx
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    Thanks Dale and Mihki for the quick replies.

    What you said about the Depth of Field finally clicked for me and I know understand the need for the higher Magnification.

    Who would be some good guys to check out as far as the Nikko or the Lynx goes in the JHB area? I know Target Specialists can get them.

    And one final thing, roughly how much do they go for?
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    Best value for money scope at the moment has to be the Leapers\AGS 8-32X56
    Optics as good if not better than the big Lynx, springer rated, comes complete with 30mm mounts, 100mm side wheel, lens caps, long Sun shade.
    Side Wheel action is more positive than the Lynx with absolutely no backlash.
    Has lockable target turrets.
    Has illuminated true mildot reticle.

    The ZOS is also good but optics are are nowhere near the same quality...it is after all quite a bit cheaper.
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    AGS/Leapers 8-32 scope is really good value for money, take it from someone that has 1 and also a Tasco Customshop 8-40 and a Lynx 10-50.
    Bang for buck I don't think u can beat them.
    Optics is good, but in my opinion in the same class as the Tasco 8-40 and Lynx/Nikko Stirling 10-50.

    Leapers just offers more, can't go wrong with IR in bad weather FT shooting !
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    guido

    How many ZOS scopes can you buy with the budget for a Leapers\AGS 8-32X56 scope....???? Last time I looked it was 3, approaching 4.....!!!! I do'nt even have that many air rifles in my arsenal......!!!!

    Happy hunting.....

    Malan
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    When it comes to optics you get what you pay for.If you are lucky and get a ZOS with good glass in it then you wont want anything better, but in general the glass in the cheaper scopes will not impress.
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    Sharp Shooter
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    Mine is good glass...... It is the jerk behind the trigger which causes the shots to fly in an unpredictable way....

    Happy shooting

    Malan
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    Marksman
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    no Malan...

    Leapers\AGS is only about 2x the price of the ZOS
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    hi malan

    i had a zos the scope was good, there is nothing wrong but i was able to see the difference between it and the big Nikko

    but for the price it is the best there is.
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    Total DOM

    I agree with you 100%...... First Leapers , now BIG NIKKO....., what next......??????
    I only see BIG BUCKs when you talk about such names....
    Shall we call it quits after Schmidt & Bender.....!!!!!
    Look at http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/ac...essory_id=1684 for the Leapers 8 to 24 X 50 marked down to $500..... What would the price be of the bigger 8 to 32 X 56......?????

    Happy FT shooting....

    Malan
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    Marksman
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    Malan that is a printing error...

    The 8-32X56 with everything included is R3950 [with 30mm mounts, 100mm side wheel, long Sun shade, flip-up caps etc]
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    Sharp Shooter
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    Thanks, Guido for picking up that printing error.......

    I just picked up that example from the Pyramyd Air website because I had no other reference to the stated price......
    Would that price of ~R 4 000 be the all-inclusive price, VAT and import duties and collection, or do you see some more handling fees added......????

    Thanks

    Malan
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    Marksman
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    Malan that price is complete with EVERYTHING...and includes setup on your rifle with zeroing if you so wish and espresso if you come and pick it up...hehe
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