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Thread: Daystate Mk3 lock time

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    everyone/article that i've spoke to/read..............reckons the lock-time is really fantastically quick. i've never shot one so i don't know..............maybe i should go try it out this afternoon????

    any mk3 owners on the forum? or anyone with experience.....

    how does the lock time compare to FT specialists like the EV2, Steyr...etc is't really night and day?

    thanks

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    hehe...the lock time is not what it is about.
    If that was the case all the match rifles would have electronic triggers.

    My Hammerli free pistol from the mid 80s has an electronic trigger.
    Walther also tried to make one...now they have all reverted back to mechanical triggers.

    All the match rifles out there have fantastic triggers...it's all really about adjustability.

    The MK3 trigger cannot be moved relative to the grip in all the axes as is possible on the 10m rifles.

    For me it is far more important to get the trigger blade in just the right place relative to the grip, and to be able to swivel it in all possible directions.

    The lock time in my Steyr is incredibly fast and combined with the stabilizer the shot is COMPLETELY dead...

    I really do not feel the MK3 is the solution for an FT rifle...it is beautiful but expensive...more of a hunting or HFT rig.
    The grip is not adjustable, the cheekpiece on the FT model only goes up and down as does the butt-pad...there are just too many omissions to make it an FT rifle.

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    yes...........re trigger, i've gathered that from the net and also an earlier thread.

    i'm fascinated by the electronic fire-cycle, no hammerspring/striker...etc

    went to the shop earlier, unfortunately not charged, will go back sat. or next week to try out.

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    wooohooopp !!! 7 stars.. who's the man???

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    I've had a few shots with the mk3 very nice! Only thing about it that i would consider before buying it would be- what if you have a major problem with the electronics? Do you have to ship it all the way back to england to get it fix? Who knows how long it would take.

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    eeish...........7 *s, better post more to catch up.

    yes, local support is a concern..........hence EV2 was on the top of the list.............

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    I have had a fair amount of experience with the Mk3, you can read my review of it here:

    http://aftsa.co.za/Pages/reviews/daystate_mk3b_dale.htm

    It is a nice rifle, would I buy one?

    Short answer - no.

    Why, well given what the rifle costs in the UK, I can buy an Air Arms S400, a Leupold scope, mounts and charging kit for the same amount of money.

    The Mk3 gives more shots per charge - but compressed air is cheap.

    The Mk3 is very quiet to fire - this is really not that significant an issue.

    The Mk3 trigger while OK is not as good as a properly designed mechanical unit.

    Lock time - good technique is cheaper to learn than buying technology.

    From my perspective, living in the UK, if a MK3 goes wrong (which they do, as will any mechanical device) then returning it to the factory is a nuisance, but not a major issue. In SA I really don't know what sort of provision is going to be made for back up.

    Dale

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    thanks dale,

    i read urs and neil mackinnon's review on neilg's website with interest...........

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    If I was in the UK, and had the money, would probably get one of these..


    GML S400 with a Tawnado stock.

    ~~~~drool~~~~

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    you can easily get that done over here as well..........just need the money.

    -get a custom stock made from ur local stck maker
    -get muzzle brake/trigger shoe...etc made up by ur
    local gun smith
    -get ur s400 serviced and give the internals a bit of polishing..............
    -get some nylon washers to replace thouse trigger o-rings........

    and voila.

    i see the gml 400's are about GBP200 more than the normal S400..........and Tawnado stocks are about GBP300. or that's GBP 500 / ZAR 5800 over the base price. the question is whether one can get all that done in ZA for R5800..........or if it's sensible to spend R5800 on the S400..........personally i would get something else.

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    Something else? Nooooooooooooo
    Come to the dark side! Stay away from the light!
    IMHO nothing comes even close the looks and performance of the S4X0's.

    That said, you can probably guess I don't like the bolt together looks of the Steyr / Stealth / EV2 rifles. Prefer the classic hunter style.

    Anyways, each to his / her own.

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    still havn't tried the mk3 RT.........

    yet according to David Snook of Daystate, lock-time of the previous mk3's is around 12ms.......and the new mk3 sport with lean charge technology is at amazing 7.5ms.

    but wait for it.............according to BAR, the lock-time for steyr lg100 is at 5.2ms !amazed !amazed


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    and the Ev2...........here we go again

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    Oh Dear, this thread started out with promise. Sensible question, reasoned and sensible answers based on fact and experience, now it is going down hill fast.

    I don't care how quickly you can open the firing valve, air under pressure will only travel through the transfer port and into the breech chamber at a given rate. I have no idea what rate that is, but it does not matter if you open the valve with electronics, mechanics, or jelly doughnuts, the air will always expand at the same rate.

    As for felt recoil, the Steyr and EV2 are better than the MK3 a and b.

    If you want to know how reliable electronics are when exposed to exterior weather, ask a soldier!

    Servicing the electronics and electro mechanics on a MK3 is for the expert only.

    Neil- the detractor

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    Prefer mechanical over electronic ! Easier and cheaper to fix.

    I've been working with computers for just too damn long !

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