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    according to chairgun... at 100m... 13.7gr@1050fps will drop 27" with 30yrd zero... surely there isn't enough mil-dot and elevations to support distance than that or further even at 10x... use bigger zoom than 10x even worse...

    i heard put in camera films in the rear scope ring to bring up the scope is a solution for more revs... any other ideas?
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    Get closer!
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    um... good idea... any better idea?
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    Zero at longer distance, eg 50 or 60m
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    Boondock you need to either shim the scope [don't use negative since it will scratch the scope]
    I use a strip of squash raquet handle tape.

    Otherwise you need adjustable mounts [best option]

    Some scopes have enough elevation adjustment but most will be on the limit at 80 yrds or so.
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    also remember that Chairgun is wildly inaccurate at anything past 50 yrds...the BCs vary as well as other factors.

    I have often found far less drop at 100m than the drop extrapolated by Chairgun
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    neilg... zero at further distance won't help... i tested yesterday... with all elevations applied and the POI hit the 3rd mil-dot at 10x... if use 24x... the POI will be far blew the all mil-dots... very hard to estimate... 10x maybe ok for many shooters... but the problem i have is the wind... i can see the dirts explode next to the target but i can't tell where exactly the POI is at 10x... so i can't compensate correctly... and the 4cm kill zone is way too small in 10x @100m... i will lov to use at least 24x...

    see this chart for POI at 10x and 24x:








    HITMAN... thx for the info...








    guido... which adjustable mounts u suggest? where i can find 1?
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    The preferred method is to shim the bottom of the rear end scope mount with suitable material, either film negative or shimstock,,,,, Whether it scratches the scope is another story......
    Just be carefull not to shim more than ~0.7mm (three X film negative thickness) otherwise the scope mount becomes out of round and overtightening can break the tube......
    Adjustable scope mounts are obviously the best answer, but they can be costly...., and a bugger to set up easily...

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    I dont know if you get the SportsMatch AOP55(Beeman 5039) in 30mm but that is a very good adjustable mount for up down and to the sides. Once setup its super solid and wont swift. Does cost a bit thougth but is a keeper. Also it can accommodate scope sizes up to 65mm.
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    I have the B-Squares and they are excellent although very fiddly to set up correctly.

    Hennie at TS should have ans also AA may have the SportsMatch.
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    Boondock just try with some insulating electrical tape...3 or 4 layers on the bottom of the rear mount should suffice.
    It may be all you need

    Make the first strip of tape the longest with each successive layer getting shorter in order to try and retain the 30mm profile of the scope without squashing it.
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    thanks guido... will try the tape first...
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    Or the extreme options.....get more scope

    US Optics:
    SN2 10-42x58
    50 MOA elevation
    http://www.usoptics.com/product.php?partnumber=SN2-001
    OR
    SN9 10-42x58
    100 MOA Elevation
    http://www.usoptics.com/product.php?partnumber=SN9-4200

    Both come with optional 80mm objective!!!! Unbelievable!!

    They have other scopes too with higher MOA all with custom options. Interesting Reticles too.

    Imagine these (with 80mm obj.) on an air rifle! It will look more like a scope with a rifle attached to it, than vice versa
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    Blankster,
    have u seen how much they cost ??????
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