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    Protea FT Team '12/'16/'17

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    Hi All.

    i have just read the HFT thread with a lot of concern.

    i also noticed that the Alberton shoot was advertised as "FUN SHOOT" and less than 20 people pitched of which 99% were FT shooters who wanted some fun.

    Dirt Ryders had our first 'FUN SHOOT" this weekend and also under 20 people pitched but Mhiki did bring 2 newbies and Alan Carbon brought 1 so 3 new faces.

    i was very dissapointed at the turn out. Every single person who has asked for and pushed for "FUN SHOOTS" DID NOT ATTEND I REPEAT DID NOT ATTEND MY FUN SHOOT.

    with this in mind i think that as people we play a sport not for the fun only but for the competition as well. so we need to have fun while taking part in a competition. it is human nature to see who can be better than who, if you dont agree with me then you are the 1 person who has targets in their garden and shoots all weekend every weekend by them selves.

    so going back to the question, FUN or COMPETITION. all fun shoots have been poorly attended and the club shoots and provincial competitions have been better attended shows that people want to compete and have fun.


    to all those that want to have fun shoot in your back yard were you can make up your own rules so that you can have fun.

    FT and HFT have rules and this is what we want. Even BR and silhoette has rules. so if you want fun go do it your self as this will be the only way. for those who go to any sport or shooting comp you will see that the first couple of times you participate the rules will be relaxed for you so that you can get accustomed to it.

    on the thing of Fun, why is it that people want to have fun and shoot FT but do not help in the setup of the ranges???????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????
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    i can count on my fingers the number of people who help to setup the ranges that we shoot at out of +-100 saftaa members that does not take into account the non members.

    please lets be realistic here. there is no fun doing things by yourself. fun is what you make it. so if you do not want to have fun then dont do it you Piiiiiiiisssssss off your self and the people arround you.


    i think that i have missed my own point.

    i will not call any of Dirt Ryders shoots FUN shoots any more because limited people pitch up. they will be know as "Competition Practice with fun in the mix"
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    hehe .....
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    TD. If you look at the thread wrt HFT you will see the hostility and politics entwined in the thread. This and a lot of other issues arising from different clubs are typical for the reasons I have lost my interest in the sport.

    Everybody keeps on with growing the sport, growing the interest and so on. This sport will not grow unless there is a total mind change of all the high and mighty Messrs know alls and be alls of the game.

    I have been told by one of the top FT guys that he was told in no uncertain terms that if he does not pay his SAFTAA membership and clubfees he is not welcome to shoot anymore.

    You may say good ridence if I am not shooting anymore, but this kind of attitude by so many people is the root cause of the low numbers.
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    eish.. dont envy you guys.. all I can say is I am glad I am in Capetown!
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    Protea FT Team '12/'16/'17

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    Eish Francois

    that is not good, i dont know who said that but it is not like that.

    you will agree that if a person is not a saftaa member they should pay more to shoot at a provincial match as this is ment for the serious shooters who want to go furthur in the sport.

    no shooter should be turned away from shooting at club level, but that is up to the clubs and not saftaa.

    please can you PM me who the two parties were so thta i can try and fix the problem, i am sure that it was not ment they way the shooter received it, this top shooter should also know better and know that he or she does not have to join saftaa, but then they would not be invited to shoot at the South African National trials etc.
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    Errol,

    What you are saying falls into line with the point I have tried to make repeatedly that IMO there should be greater emphasis on what you might call 'ordinary' club days when people get together to shoot - not necessarily to engage in any sort of serious competition but to gather for practice and informal shooting - this is where the bread and butter grass roots shooters come from who can then move towards serious competitive shooting if they desire.

    As an outsider reading this forum - most mention I see of clubs is when there is a provincial or similar type shoot being run - very little of 'x'club is going to be open on 'y' date for a practice day or 'x' club open every saturday (or every other saturday) for practice and informal comps.

    That is where growth of the sport whether FT or HFT will come from, get that area strong and the competition scene will grow as well...............
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    again I say.. Thanks godness I am in Capetown.. the guys that run CAR and Atlantic certainly look after the shooters and are very supportive to gorwing the sport and also,I may add, very successful!
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    Yep, each shoot we see new faces and they keep coming back!!!
    Must be our mountain that has an affect or the 'cloud' around it that makes us mellow.... !amazed
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    Dale , your words are indeed true .

    Every weekend at Quarry there is a shoot , pay your £5.00 shoot , and afterwards , then you can practice till its dark .

    In summer the "second shift" come along at about mid day , shoot , jaw wag , and generally socialise .

    I think that every time I have been up there , there is at least one newby .

    This is so important , to keep plugging away at "fun shoots" to get the new guys out , and shooting .
    Make it cheap , make yourselves available to help .
    I consider myself a newbie at HFT , and I'm always made welcome at all the clubs I've visited around here .

    Obviously all newbies are welcomed .

    March Airgunner , has a good article about a newbie at his first HFT comp .

    The zero range has a distinct picture of an ex SA guy cocking his Air Arms TX200 HC ????
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    Hang in there TD, it will get better. Do not lose interest after the first bad turnout. The sooner the guys will stop complaining about everything, things will turn around.
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    Protea FT Team '07/'08/'09/'10/'11/'13

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    Do not worry Goose even if its only me and TD there we will have our club shoots.
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    Protea FT Team '12/'16/'17

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    we had a open day for all and the normal guys did not pitch, as lukas says even if it is him and me we will shoot. i have to learn from lukas as last year he kicked my ass and it looks that way to this year.
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    TotalDOM,
    You need to attract the guys that don't shoot as well as the regulars. Non shooters don't read this forum. Who knows that you are having a shoot, apartfor the forum junkies?
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    Protea FT Team '07/'08/'09/'10/'11/'13

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    Hi Gerrie you just hit the nail on the head. Marketing, Marketing and some more Marketing that’s the number one reason, the sports not growing. All the other stuff we all have been debating about is secondary to marketing.

    Right there is the bigger problem Marketing cost money and takes time form people that is not shooting air rifles for a living, so who have the money and time to do the Marketing of FT, HFT and est. “PROPERLY”??????

    Before anyone bit my head off, I know a lot of us have done our bit to try and market the sport to the best of our ability.

    But is that enough????????

    Don’t ask what Air Rifle Shooting can do for you but what you can do for Air Rifle Shooting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Protea FT Team '09/'10

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    Hi guys, it really seems as though you are having a challenging time there in Jozi. I must say, that I am really greatful to the all the guys involved in the sport here in Cape Town. For the time that I have been shooting HFT and now FT, is that are those who are doing it just for the fun of it, albeit with a bit of a competitive spirit, and then those who do take it more seriously. I think the one common denominator is that we all do it for the love of the sport and in general, there really exists a very good sense of comeraderie at all of our shoots.

    For one if we are really serious about growing the sport on both levels, then yes, we need to advertise, but i don't think this neccessarily means spending loads of money. If everyone invites someone to a shoot, whether this be a serious competition or club level shoot, then even if half of those joined or became interested, we have increased our numbers by 50%.

    What this effectively means on us as individuals is that we will need to make some sacrifices, stop focussing on ourselves and have time for the newbies as well.
    Example: What we have been doing at our AAC shoots is that we have decided to adopt a more professional approach in the way we go about doing things, this would include having courses set us early enough that when shooters/invitees arrive, we have completed setup. During shoots, we have decided to rather opt out to marshall effectively and help all newcomers to the sport and then after they have completed their round with experienced assistance, we will shoot our round, this way everybody gets what they came for. Sure the day is a bit longer, but if you want to grow, you need to lead the way through example and just being excellent in all you do.

    I think their will always be politics involved in whatever sport, but just look, this has never ever served to improved things, only to destroy - just look at the state of outr country. All i can say is, put aside all the 'tics, get back to basics - enjoyment of the sport, lead the way through example and the consequence of this must be growth.

    Best regards in your endeavours - I really hope that someday all those who are really serious about their sport could arrange a shoot, get together (who knows the logistics of this), have some serious competitive fun and a nice laugh thereafter.

    cheers!!!
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