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Thread: My first PCP - any refilling advice appreciated.

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    Default My first PCP - any refilling advice appreciated.

    Hi guys,

    I bought a Gunpower Hellcat 5.5mm Spinloc from someone on the forum. No problems there, but it was an impulse buy, and upon receiving the gun, the realisation that I was in over my head slowly dawned.

    Pump versus Dive tank ?

    I am happy to go either way, but would prefer to avoid the expenditure of learning by trial and error. So, bearing in mind that all I have is the rifle and a foster connector:

    1) What do I need to setup a filling station?
    2) Where do I buy it ? (in the durban area)
    3) Who can refill ? (tank rated at 3000psi)

    Any advice from the folks who have already figured out the good, bad, and the ugly would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,
    cp
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    Do not stuff around with HPA. Go the dive bottle route. You will end up there anyway.

    1) PM Airvolution for a fill station. Properly manufactured. You will need to inform him whether you will be using it on a 232 or 300 bar dive cylinder.

    2) Not a clue.

    3) Most dive shops. Check first as some can only do 232 bar and some can do 300 bar.
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    Im in durban kings has dive bottles and so does underwater world

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    And they both fill
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    Have you got one of these??
    http://www.rlairgunsupply.com/airgun...airforce-guns
    They connect hand pumps or scuba cylinders to the Gunpower/AirForce air rifle tank.
    Or is this what you have??
    http://www.rlairgunsupply.com/airgun...le-connection
    Last edited by jonratter; 10-05-14 at 19:12. Reason: anudder piccy
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    Thanks for jumping in JR. HPA is no joke. There are people whose legs have been broken by bad or worn fittings at the end of the fill station hose.

    People have been killed by truck and tractor tyres blasting off the rim. Maybe 4 atmospheres of pressure. 2 to 3 hundred is fatal if not treated with due respect.
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    You need to find someone in Durban who is the know regarding PCP's.It is better to learn the ins and outs of HPA and its correct application.Be safe.Cheers
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    Adrian,
    I can't tell what Cheesy bought from his description.
    All I know is my GP/AF cylinders only suck up to one of those goodies and the fitting I have is moerse over-engineered.
    Judging by the almighty bang an out-the-box Condor makes after filling, it's right to be wary of the pressures.
    None of my AirForce cylinders came with gauges.
    Think they are still sold as such.
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    The pistol he bought has quickfill and a gauge,ie spinlock. All he needs is a foster coupler and 170bar.
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    Scout this noob is in Durbs. Trying to keep him in one piece.
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    Contact Bernard from Helber. www.helber.co.za
    He has fill stations and all the AirForce fittings and is always very helpful.
    As far as I remember AirForce and Gunpower rifles are the same.

    As far as pump vs tank goes. There is no question get a tank. I got a pump to save a few bucks only to pick up problems a few months latter and ended up buying a tank. Filling with a pump you spend as much time pumping as you do shooting.

    Regards
    Gary
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    https://www.airrifle.co.za/threads/2...compressed-air

    If you are within reasonable driving distance from a dive shop don't bother with a hand pump. Remember 3000 psi = 206 bar.
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    Thanks everyone,

    I now have some direction - that beginners guide was most informative.

    We learned at school how much pressure 200barr was, but it was just a number. The destructive potential of a dive tank is quite unnerving. I will report back once I get my kit - ideally still in possession of all my fingers and toes.
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    I know nothing about the hand pumps but assume that they do not seperate moisture from the air resulting in condensation inside the cylinder, which in turn causes corrosion and a shorter rifle life... or am I being dramatic? I know that any air fit for diving is dry so will only use air from a reputable dive shop in my rifle.
    Any opinions on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pietsweis View Post
    I know nothing about the hand pumps but assume that they do not seperate moisture from the air resulting in condensation inside the cylinder, which in turn causes corrosion and a shorter rifle life... or am I being dramatic? I know that any air fit for diving is dry so will only use air from a reputable dive shop in my rifle.
    Any opinions on this?
    Most hand pumps come with an inline moisture trap

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    A Hill pump new approx R3300.A good 6l 300 Bar scuba tank and fill station approx R3000.00
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