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Thread: Vintage Airgun + Vintage Pellets = Accuracy?

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    Default Vintage Airgun + Vintage Pellets = Accuracy?

    I read somewhere that older springers prefer the older pellets, the likes of Marksman, Radius etc
    So I thought, let me give that a little test!

    Rifle used : 1970 Gecado 35 in Pristine condition (really! this rifle looks like it left the factory yesterday)
    Distance : 10m open sights.
    Pellets : Marksmen vs JSB expresses 6 shots each( called flyer in each group)
    Position : Sitting, rested on my hand on a chair



    On the left JSB, right Marksman.

    What have I learned from this?
    MY 35 definitely does NOT prefer old brand pellets!

    Disclaimer: This test was not conducted scientifically at all.
    Other rifles might perform differently
    Other shooters might perform differently
    Other pellets might perform differently
    Last edited by Pellet pusher; 04-07-16 at 16:26.
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    Got a few tins of pellets with a HW77 I bought many years ago.
    Among them was a tin of ARLAZ pellets.
    At 10 meters a ten shot group only recorded 7 or 8 shots spread across the A4 page. The other few pellets missed completely and hit the garage wall.

    Lesson learned. Cheap gets cheap results
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    As ek more onthou sal ek met my BSA Improved model D wat oor die 100 jaar oud is so toets doen. Dit het 'n smooth barrel en ek het ook gehoor die ouens se dit verkies die sagter pellets soos Marksman.
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    Box of 500 Marksmen pellets cost two shillings and sixpence (2/6) at out local hardware shop. Thats 25c in today's money.

    Only other pellet I can remember from back then was Cymot. Marksmen came in a red box and Cymot in a green box
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    Quote Originally Posted by dutoitk View Post
    Got a few tins of pellets with a HW77 I bought many years ago.
    Among them was a tin of ARLAZ pellets.
    At 10 meters a ten shot group only recorded 7 or 8 shots spread across the A4 page. The other few pellets missed completely and hit the garage wall.

    Lesson learned. Cheap gets cheap results
    I remember those Arlaz pellets. Really nasty. Got a tin with one of my pistols waaaaayi back. Must admit, I shot them all up before getting some decent stuff. Strange how a person doesn't wanna waste...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cor View Post
    As ek more onthou sal ek met my BSA Improved model D wat oor die 100 jaar oud is so toets doen. Dit het 'n smooth barrel en ek het ook gehoor die ouens se dit verkies die sagter pellets soos Marksman.
    ' JSB gaan altyd meer akkuraat wees, al skiet jy dit nou met n ou haasrek kettie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juniork View Post
    ' JSB gaan altyd meer akkuraat wees, al skiet jy dit nou met n ou haasrek kettie.
    ROFL!

    Too True!
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    Re-did the test today using a BSA Airsporter MK1 in .22 flavor.

    Rifle used : 1950's Airsporter MK1 completely refurbished and re-sealed.
    Distance : 10m open sights.
    Pellets : Marksmen sharp point vs JSB 15.89 gr 5 shots each
    Position : Sitting, rested on my hand on a chair

    Results:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellet pusher View Post
    I read somewhere that older springers prefer the older pellets

    There is a bit of truth in this comment.

    Where it comes from is that certain older airguns - specifically British made .22 air rifles such as early Webley's and BSA's used a 5.6 mm bore as opposed to the 5.5 mm bore of continental made guns.

    The old British bores favoured the use of British .22 (5.6 mm) pellets and often under performed in both accuracy and power when used with continental .22 (5.5 mm) pellets.

    However, crappy cheap pellets such as Marksmen shoot like crap in either barrel type. Also pointed pellets always seem to be especially crap!

    Years ago I had a Webley Tracker side lever carbine and with 5.5 mm pellets it struggled to get above 8 ft.lbs with only average accuracy. When fed the old Eley Wasp 5.6 mm pellets it performed at just over 10 ft.lbs and accuracy was way better.

    Pity that the current Eley Wasps are such garbage since the company changed hands.

    It is however encouraging to see that the old Airsporter is giving a credible performance with JSB's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    There is a bit of truth in this comment.

    Where it comes from is that certain older airguns - specifically British made .22 air rifles such as early Webley's and BSA's used a 5.6 mm bore as opposed to the 5.5 mm bore of continental made guns.

    The old British bores favoured the use of British .22 (5.6 mm) pellets and often under performed in both accuracy and power when used with continental .22 (5.5 mm) pellets.
    Thanks for that Dale, knew I read about it somewhere, just could not remember the specifics.

    Would love to be able to test the rifles with some other brands of vintage pellets.
    If I get my hands on some I definitely will. I really enjoy shooting the vintage rifles any chance I get.

    Growing up, as far as I can remember we could only get Marksman and Radius pellets.
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