which do i choose a new hw50s or used fairly new hw80, prices about the same
From what I have seen and owned I think that anything HW springer pre 2007 was better made. So, I would buy one of those rather.
There is a 120mm (only 30mm for the HW80K version) difference in length between the HW80 and the HW50s, I m not so sure that it should translate to the former being "clunky"
HW80 is a decent springer too: Weihrauch HW80K - The Legend reviewed ~ Air Rifle SA Forums
Although I think that the Diana rifles are made in china as well as the RWS rifles but under the QC control of the intended branding company
I was really impressed with a new hw50s i sold! Out of the box almost on target at 15m, after scope fitted it came really close to a one hole group at 15m. Build quality was very nice!
Weihrauch hw50s unboxing!! - YouTube
I own all the guns discussed here so speak of expereince.
The HW80 is a lovely gun and a true legend when it comes to power, the HW50s is a fantastic
sub 12fpe gun.
Guess it is a matter of choice between high power or sub 12 fpe.
I would buy either of them no problem....... well I baught both